Monday, September 23, 2013

In conversation with Pran Kumar Sharma- The Legend of Indian comics

Whenever I used to pick up a Chacha Chaudhary comic book in my childhood, there was one face that I had got very familiar with apart from the comic characters themselves. It was the face of a smiling, benign looking man, clad in a dapper suit and tie whose face would be displayed on the front page of every Chacha comic book. That man, of course, is Pran Kumar Sharma.


Even without intending to, Pran had become a part of my life. When I realized that the wonderful world of comics I am so besotted with is created by this man, I began idolizing him. I and my brother were both quite fond of the world of Chacha Chaudhary and thus Pran slowly became a household name for us. We wondered as to how he managed to create such an enchanting world in those comics. Of particular captivation for us were the drawings of the world these characters lived in; the houses, the lanes, the trees, the clothes of the characters etc. Then there were the chaste Hindi dialogues, the absolutely bizarre names of characters; it was all so alluring. We understood then that the sole credit to all that goes to Pran and our admiration for him thus grew manifold. We would always wonder as to how Pran must be like as a person, how would his voice sound like and what would I say if I ever met him? Pran had thus undoubtedly become a childhood hero for us.




As years passed, I was consumed by other more significant issues to attend in my life and thus Chacha Chaudhary and his world took a backseat. It would resurface every now and then, but would again go for a brief hibernation. However, as I had mentioned in my previous post, the world of Chacha Chaudhary has come back to infatuate me with renewed fervour. As I sat on my bed at night and leafed through the pages of my newly purchased Chacha comics, my eyes once again went to the man’s face on the front page. The picture was not the same. The man was the same, though; only a little older. Lying there I wondered where Mr. Pran Kumar Sharma must be today; would I ever be able to speak to him? The question was asked by the child in me who is still in awe of his childhood hero. But then my journalistic instinct took over. I suddenly got the inspiration of interviewing Pran Kumar Sharma.

Though the idea was great, the execution took a lot of toils. Over the past few weeks, I searched extensively for any way to contact Pran, but kept failing continuously. It reached a point where I had almost given up. But just the thought that I ‘can’ talk to my childhood hero recharged me again. At long last, my efforts bore fruit and luckily I got the contact number of Pran’s direct line. With shaking hands, I dialed his number; not knowing what to expect. The call connected and a husky, tired voice picked up the call at the other end.  My mind was a little blank and the heartbeat had risen quite a few notches, but I still managed to introduce myself. “Am I worth it?” was his question when I told him about the purpose of my call. I laughed nervously. But he was very friendly and eased my nerves. I then somehow convinced him for a telephonic interview for the coming Sunday afternoon. The fact that he agreed to the interview made me feel like walking on the clouds. Over the next few days, I pompously declared to anyone who would listen about my ‘achievement’. I felt like the child who had got the autograph of his favourite film star.    

The day of the interview was a monumental achievement for me; it would go down as one of my biggest career highlights, no matter what. I had ceased all my other tasks to dedicate my concentration solely towards this interview. I knew very well that there would not be another moment like this. It felt surreal, almost bizarre that I would be interviewing the man who had provided for innumerable of my memorable childhood moments. When I made the call, the first thing he said was, “I was waiting for your call.”  Wow, I thought. The legend of Indian comics was waiting for my call. This is crazy! Before I could begin the interview, he asked me politely, “Paani pee loon thoda?” (Can I drink some water?). I smiled and waited patiently for him to finish. And then began the interview.

Over the course of the next two hours, I cleared my heart of nearly all the things that I had always wanted to ask Pran. Fortunately, he obliged me. I feel he almost enjoyed the interview as much as I did. Almost.

Now I will let the legend do all the talking.

Excerpts from an interview

Q. The one thing that many of your fans are concerned about these days is that do you still make new comics at this age?

Pran: Yes of course. The day I stop creating comics would be the death of me. I will make comics till my last breath. Yes, I have adapted with the times now. I do not make as many as I once used to because of old age. But I do have a couple of assistants with me now who help me out. I give them the cartoons and dialogues and they colour them digitally. That does help a lot.

Moreover, I have also adapted in the stories of my comics with the age. Previously, the themes of my stories were very simple. But today’s kids are very smart. Hence, I have introduced computers, mobile phones and things like Facebook in my stories now. Kids like that I guess. And I enjoy the fact that I can bring smiles on their faces.  I will keep enjoying making comics until my end comes.

Q. How did your interest in cartooning take birth?

Pran: I was always interested in drawing cartoons from my childhood, but never really thought of it as a career option in my early days. Like every other youngster, I too wanted to establish my career first. Hence, I did my M.A. in Political Science. But even after that, the cartooning bug was always there inside me. In those days, there were no such special cartooning courses. All the legendary cartoonists of India like R. K. Laxman and K. Shankar Pillai were self-taught. I too got inspired by them and then started considering cartooning as my career option.

The fact that many of my cartoons had already been published in some of my college magazines, made me eager to get many more published across many other platforms. Hence, I put my foot down and declared to my family one fine day that I am going to be a cartoonist. They were shocked. They wanted me to take up a government job as that was very popular in those days. But my mind was made up. The cartoon bug in me had risen like a storm and there was no looking back ever since.

 Q. Why did you specifically choose comics? There are so many other parts of cartooning that you could have taken up?

Pran:  Cartooning has basically three branches- social, political and comics. The last one is my area of interest. See, the thing is, in the late 60s there were many legendary Indian cartoonists, but all of them focused more on serious topics like politics and social issues. I thus wanted to attempt a different genre of cartooning.

Moreover, in those days, whatever comics we had were imported from western countries like Spiderman, Superman, Dennis the Menace, Phantom, Mandrake etc.  I wanted to create comics completely and solely rooted in the Indian sensibilities; which would have characters and issues which our children would be able to directly relate to. And in doing so they should also have fun. Hence I started creating diverse comic characters which thankfully people loved and many of which have stayed on even now.

Q. Tell us about your career progress in your initial days.

Pran: When I had made up my mind that I would be a cartoonist, I then started approaching different newspapers to get my cartoons published. Those days, the concept of comic book wasn’t there, so I had to rely on newspapers. I struggled initially, but soon enough a couple of newspapers showed interest in my cartoons and published them. As my cartoons got published, other newspapers too got interested. Punjab Kesari, Navbharat Times, Karamveer and many other newspapers published my cartoons and my name thus started getting popular.

Back then, I used to make my own cartoons and post them myself to the local newspaper houses riding on my bicycle. I didn’t get much for those cartoon strips in the newspapers; around 10 Rs. for each strip. It was a struggle. But it sure was fun.

Q. How did your association with Diamond Comics begin?

Pran: It was in the 1980s when these two guys from Diamond Comics (DC) came to my residence to meet me. They were keen to compile my comics, which had been published in the newspapers and magazines like Lotpot, into a book form. I immediately agreed as the fact that my comics would come out separately in a book was a huge motivation for me. Plus the money they offered was good; I was taken in.

I initially gave them content for two comic books, which they published as 45-paged comic books.  Luckily the response was so good that all the prints got sold out within two weeks of their release. There was no looking back after that. The DC guys kept coming back to me for more and I kept creating the comics with passion. I slowly became a household name.  It also gave me a stable income for survival. There is no denying that DC gave me a platform to be famous. And now I have more than 600 comics books in my name.

Q. Was there anything particular in your mind when you created your characters?

Pran: I wanted all my characters to be connected to the Indian middle-class sensibilities. Hence you will find all my chrachters facing similar issues and problems to tackle in their everyday lives. My world was simple- the lives of the people, the houses they stayed in, the buildings in the background; everything was very simple and hence people connected to it. Moreover, I never wanted any of my characters to do anything unnatural; like I made sure they should never fly or crawl up the walls. Children relate to these things very quickly. I hence did not want to show them any unreal things and instead wanted to tell them that our world can be fascinating even in the simplest form.

Q. How did Chacha Chaudhary’s character come into your mind?



Pran:  In those days, we did not have any Indian comic character to relate with. Even if someone came out with something, people would label it as a copy of western countries. I was thus determined to make something entirely unique and Indian. Hence Chacha Chaudhary took birth. He is not handsome or strong like other superheroes, but his entire strength is his common-sense. He wears a turban, has a walking stick as his weapon and still solves the problems of the world. He is our very own Indian hero with whom everyone can relate to.

Q. What made you form Sabu’s character?

Pran:  Chachaji was having to face a lot of issues you see. Tackling goons, solving mysteries was fine but the issues started getting graver. Things like terrorism and bomb blasts started taking place. I thus thought that Chachaji should have an able companion with him to tackle all these. Hence Sabu took birth.

He is a massive and powerful man from Jupiter. Everyone in his planet is strong and tall like him. One day he was flying his spaceship and happened to land in India. He was instantly mesmerized by the beautiful scenery; the snow clad mountains, the crystal clear water. He then met Chachaji who took him home and the two then instantly formed a friendly bond. After Sabu drank Chachi’s lassi, he then decided to stay here for the rest of his life. Sabu became like a family to Chachaji; the two are inseparable now. If Chachaji is Lord Ram, Sabu is like Lord Hanuman. Chachaji is the brain and Sabu is the brawn. Together they are the perfect heroes that our society needs.




Q. Talking about Sabu. Correct me if I am wrong, but in my childhood, I remember reading an episode where Sabu was a genie. Is that correct?

Pran: (Laughs loudly) No one has ever asked me this question ever in my career. But you are correct.  I really admire your memory.

When you create a character, it goes through many shades. Yes, there was just this single episode where Sabu was initially introduced as a ‘Jinn’ who came out from a lamp. However, when I saw the print, I did not like it. Furthermore, I realized that I should not be showing something totally unrealistic to children. Hence I changed his character and modified him to be from Jupiter. That has stuck ever since.

Q. Was the idea of keeping ‘Rocket’ as a vegetarian dog deliberate?

Pran: Yes, I like to keep things in my comics a little different. Rocket too was born out of that. He is not an expensive or beautiful dog. He is a very simple dog that can be found in any lane. Chachaji once fed him some milk and since that day the dog has been with him. I kept him vegetarian deliberately so as to not let the crooks feed him meat or bones when they want to commit any wrongdoing. Thus Rocket too is an able companion of Chachaji and is like his family. He also helps him solves mysteries and takes on many bad guys.

Q. The villains in your series were generally pretty funny and goofy. However, the character of Raaka took the series to a different level, isn’t it? He was the first really violent character in your series.

Pran: I wanted to create a completely different character that would take everyone by surprise. Hence Raaka the dacoit was formed. He is unabashedly violent and kills for power and pleasure. When he grew immortal, there was no stopping him except Chachaji and Sabu. People fear him, but in the end, he is always packed off in some far off and desolate place. The idea was to be innovative and not get repetitive with the stories that I came out. Raaka’s stories take my comics to a different genre; while certain sensibilities about good and evil remain the same.

Q. The names of your characters are quite funny and unique.

Pran: Again, the idea was to be different and unique. I did not want to borrow names of normal people but create ones that are unheard of and sound funny at the same time. That too does take a lot of thinking though. I had to sometimes sit for hours to come up with names. I am happy people liked the names that I created.

Q. You created so many characters, but Chacha Chaudhary was the most famous. Was there any other character before Chacha Chaudhary that had become well-known?

Pran: Actually Chacha Chaudhary became famous in the mid-70s. There was another chrachter of mine which was extremely renowned in the early 70s- Shrimatiji. I can’t tell you how popular she was; especially amongst the females (laughs). The Shrimatiji comic strips first appeared in the women magazine Sarita. Within just a few weeks, its popularity really soared and people just loved her. Later on, Shrimatiji started getting published from the magazine Manorama because I had some dispute with the Sarita owners. Shrimatiji ran quite succefully in Manorama for several yers until the magzine was closed down. Nowadays, apart from the usual standalone comics of Shrimatiji, its comics strips also appears in Gujarat Guardian Daily (Surat) as well as Sudha Weekly(Bangalore).

The reason Shrimatiji's character became so popular was because she is like the very average middle-class married woman. She is always on the look-out for the street-side sales and would find out other ways to curb her household expenses. Plus, people really enjoyed her constant banter with her husband.


Q. Any particular character from the many that you created that is your favourite?

Pran: I created all my characters with equal love and passion. They are like my own babies. I can never be partial towards any one. I love them all equally.

Q. There was a TV serial that was made on Chacha Chaudhary.

Pran: Yes, it was in 2005 I guess when these Sahara guys contacted me for the want of adopting Chacha Chaudhary into a serial. Those days Subroto Roy's Sahara TV was quite popular. It was Roy's son Sushanto Roy who was primarily interested in this adoption of the series into the serial. He was the one who sent for me to meet them at their Mumbai office. He told me their wish and I had no issues. The money was good and they seemed genuine people. My only problem was with royalty. I told Sushanto that companies don’t generally give me royalty and at this age I won’t be able to run after you; so if you can provide me the royalty I will be happy. Within minutes Sushanto asked his accountant to pay me my royalties and I was thus content. The serial too was quite good.

Q. You started way back in the 60s.What difference do you find in the cartooning style of today and the yesteryears?

Pran: It has changed a lot. In my initial days, drawing comic strips took a lot of effort; sketching the characters, making the backgrounds, filling it with vibrant colours and giving dialogues to the chrachters. It was really a tough and time-consuming job. Now, things have become comparatively easier as mostly people like to take the help of computers and make cartoons digitally. I, however, still prefer to make my cartoons on paper. It takes a lot of hard work. But it is fun.

Q. From what I have come to know, you were invited on many cartoon conventions from around the globe. Can you elaborate?  

Pran: Yes, after more than 20 years in the field, my name had reached to different corners of the globe. In 2006, I was invited by the Cartoonists Society of America in Chicago to deliver a lecture there on the subject of comics. It was an enriching experience as the audience there loved to hear my views. I also got a chance to meet some of my idols from the cartooning field like Mort Walker (the creator of Beetle Bailey) and many others. A few years later, I was also invited by the Cartoonists Club of Great Britain; that too was a landmark. There were many other places after that which kept inviting me like Australia, New Zealand, Moscow and different countries from Europe; I had become a known name. More than anything else, these tours gave me the chance to relive my childhood dream of visiting foreign lands. It was my passion, you can say, which made me achieve that. At first my friends and relatives would mock me for being a cartoonist, now they are proud to be associated with Pran!

Q. What would your message be to aspiring Indian cartoonists of today?

Pran: Perhaps I should not say this, but I find a real lack of originality in our Indian cartoonists today. They tend to get inspired by western countries and concepts and try and emulate their characters. Most of the Indian comics and graphic novels that you find in the market today are modified versions of western comic characters. I thus want to tell young Indian cartoonists to please be original. If you make Spiderman wear a dhoti, he will still be a Spiderman. He will not be Indian. These cartoonists should take inspiration from Indian sensibilities and emotions. There are innumerable stories and characters that can be taken out from our country.

Furthermore, to be a good cartoonist you should have a very deep sense of humour and good intellect apart from having a balanced and good drawing sense. These are the most vital ingredients one must have if they desire to be a good cartoonist.

Q. You have often been quoted talking about the need for a comics museum in India. Please elaborate.

Pran: Places like America, England, Australia, many countries in Europe and even many smaller ones around the globe have comics museums. They know how to respect their legendary cartoonists. But unfortunately, our country does not have a single genuine comics museum. The need for such museum arises as they can preserve some the gems created by the legendary comic artists of any country which we can show to our children.

Our country too had legendary cartoonists like R.K.Laxman, Kutty, K. Shankar Pillai and others who have even contributed in our independence through their cartoons. They had themes which showed our plight during those days and ignited the patriotic passion in people. But where are those cartoons? We need to show them to our children and a museum would have been the best option to display these cartoons of our legends. I hope someday soon our country too realizes the need for this.

Q. You must have received endless praises from your fans over the years. Any particular comment that has stuck with you?

Pran: It’s really difficult to point out any one. My fans have been very generous on me. I am overwhelmed with their love for me. However, I would like to share a recent incident.

I was at a hospital, undergoing surgery for some intestinal infection I had been infected with. The day before I was admitted to the hospital, the legendary actor Pran had passed away. I was sitting in my hospital room and reading the newspapers which carried this news, when the doctors came in. I looked at them and said in jest, “Looks like it’s the turn of the other Pran to go as well.” The head surgeon however held my hands and told me, “Pran ji, I will never let anything happen to you. I have grown up reading your comics. You are my hero.” I was extremely touched by that.  It is moments like these which make me realize that my life has been worthwhile after all.

Q. You are an inspiration to many. Have you got inspired by anyone?

Pran: Oh, of course. Many people inspire me from different fields. Currently, though I am a big fan of Indian cricket team captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni. He is a real inspiration for every one of us. Just look at the way he has risen from a small place (Ranchi) and has become a world-renowned face. We are all so proud of him today. And that is not just luck; he has put in a lot of hard work, passion and dedication into it. Though, I am nowhere as close to him in success, I can relate to him as well because I too have reached where I have because of a lot of hard work and dedication.

Q. What would you say has been your biggest achievement in life?

Pran:  I can’t call this an achievement but I guess I have contributed something towards the society; even if it is very small. I guess I provided the people of India with a ‘sasta’ entertainment. The fact that I could bring smiles on the faces of different people, made them forget their troubles for a few minutes, gives me the greatest satisfaction. That I could say is my biggest achievement in life. My fans are the ones who keep me alive even today and would do so even after I am no more. Without them I am nothing.

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I generally finish interviews with the last question itself. However, since this was Pran, I wanted to sign off in my own way.

This is not just an interview for me; it is a monumental career achievement. If I wanted, I could have probably ‘sold’ this interview to renowned media houses. However, I have too many emotions attached with this one and hence wanted it to be completely and solely mine.

One of the primary reasons for me to do this interview, other than my fascination for Pran, was the fact that I could not find anything comprehensive written on him in the online media. Furthermore, in the making of this interview, I spoke to many fans of Chacha Chaudhary. All of them still fondly recall the comics, but very few of them know about the man behind them. I thus thought that it was my responsibility as a journalist to present this interview to the fans of Chacha Chaudhary. It is essential that they know about Pran. They deserve this. He deserves this.  

There will never be another Pran in our lifetime. Hence, this is my way of saying ‘thank you’ to my childhood hero. That is all I can give him in return for making my childhood so delightful and memorable.

This one’s for all of us. This one’s for ‘our’ childhood.


Concluded


(To read the first part of this post click here.)

21 comments:

  1. Thanks for the lovely article & interview. Very well captured and good questions asked. Truely a reflection of a good journalist. - Shaili (Pran) Suri, daughter of Mr. Pran

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    1. Thank you very much mam for your response. I am humbled that you took the time out to comment on my post. The fact that you liked it is a great achievement for me. I hope Mr. Pran can get the time to read the article as well. Please do share this interview with others. I am sure, many will love to read this. Many thanks again for your valuable comment. I shall always remember it.

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    2. Very good interview. I was thinking of putting something on blog for Mr. Pran on sad occasion of his demise today, but i guess this interview is best that there can be on web space.

      Good job.

      Nish
      thegurjaras.blogspot.in

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    3. Hi Nishant, thank you for your kind words. I was just lucky that I got to interview him. It was a very very special day of my life; something which I will cherish forever. He was and still is a hero to me. May he always live in our hearts.

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  2. Amazing ! Shaili you are a proud daughter! Thanks to Mr. Pran so much!! Do you have a website?? I would like to share it with my girls!

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    1. Hello Mam. Thank you for reading the post. Hope you liked it. Please do send this to as many as you can. And if you are talking about Mr. Pran's website, then here it is: http://www.chachachaudhary.com/

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  3. Mr Bhimani, You have very beautifully captured the emotions of childhood readers of Chacha Chaudhary & Sabu & so many other characters. Thanks for doing this piece and helping us relive the fond memories.

    Shaili, Pls convey my regards to Uncle. My opinion of him as a humble and down to earth person got re-enforced once again after reading this article.

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    1. Hello Mam. Thank you so much for your comment. I am grateful that you took out time to read my post and humbled that you liked it. The idea of doing this article was excatly that- to relive my childhood facination for Chacha Chaudhary and his world. And you are absolutely correct. Mr. Pran, despite being a legend, is as humble a person as I have ever known. I am priveleged to have spoken to him.
      Thank you again for your comments; I truly value them. By the way, in case you might be interested; please try and read the first part of this article as well. I think you might like it. :)

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  4. Bhavesh bhai I must say this interview is fabulous and stupendous. You actually make me cry by reviving my childhood memories.You asked all the questions we all comics fans could only think of. Pran ji is the greatest cartoonist in my eyes since Chacha Chaudhry,Pinki and Billo's simple and witty tales enlightened my childhood. Chacha ji and Sabu are really special to me. But as you mentioned there will never be another Pran in our lifetime. I am proud to have last name "Saboo" as it is pronounced and spelled (in Hindi) the same as "Sabu" created by Pran ji :) Thanks a million Bhavesh.

    Shaili Suri ji, Pran uncle ko mera abhivadan dena. You are really luck to have such a legendary father. How I wish I could just meet him. Please tell him that we are eternally grateful to him for being there during our childhood. His comics are still enjoyed and collected by comics lovers like me. We always love you Pran ji. May god bless you with good health and long life.

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    1. Hi Deepak bhai. Thank you so much for your priceless comments. I really appreciate that. You have spoken the very words that I have felt all along for my love of the world of Chacha Chaudhary. Indeed, Pran ji is the greatest cartoonist our country has ever produced and there will never be another one like him. Today's kids, unfortunately will never realize how beautiful that world was; the waiting for the new series in the episodes, reading them at night. Everything was just so special. We all owe a lot to Pran sir. I am priveleged to have spoken to him. I did my best; combining my journalistic instincts and childhood fascination. I am glad you enjoyed the interview. Please do share it with every Chacha fan you might know. They all deserve to read this. Thank you once again for taking out time and reading this.

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    2. Sahi kaha Bhavesh bhai.. the amount of fun and enjoyment we had during child hood, because of comics and outdoor games, will never be surpassed by this generation even if they take 10 births.. I am glad that you took so much effort in finding Pranji's number and writing this enormous blog. I will share this is every possible comic fan group I am associated with. Have a great time :) I changed my display name to my real name now :)

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    3. Right you are Deepak bhai...Pran jaise shaksiyat humari zindagi me fir kabhi nhi aayenge..Perhaps I should not say this, but I really do pity the younger children of today. All their entertainment is limited to Facebook, X-Box and mobile phones. The simplistic charm of Pran's world that we people had the chance of living, can never be felt by them. That is why Pran's role in our lives makes for such a huge significance. I am proud and honoured that I did this story on him. It will be like this jewel of my career. Pleease do share this with all the Chacha comics fan. They deserve to see this. Thank you again for you kind and appreciative words. I shall treasure them. And I like your surname a lot. Wish I too had a cool surname like that.. :)

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  5. Shaili Suri ji, I meant you are lucky to have Pranji :) (Pardon my typos)

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  6. This is great! Keep it up! Almost brought me to tears on reading the answer to "a particular comment by any fan"..the doctor from the hospital.

    I am getting nostalgic now. Haven't read his comics since a long time. 'Pinky' was my favourite though.
    Thanks for the wonderful piece of interview!

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    1. Hi Shifali. Thank you for your comments. I am glad that you liked the interview. That was the purpose for writing this piece; to let his fans remember him fondly and get nostalgic. I am glad that I could achieve it. And yes, you should go ahead and buy some of the comics. I do so. It was wonderful to fall in love with them all over again.

      Many thanks again for taking out time and reading the interview. Do share it with people who you think would enjoy it. :)

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  7. thanks Bhavesh for sharing the interview with us ..im writing a paper on Chacha Choudhary comics and going to quote your conversation with him ..thanks

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    1. Thank you Ranjeet. I am glad that you enjoyed reading the interview. And I am even more happier that you are writing on Chacha Chaudhary. Please do tell me more about it if possible. I would like to know what this is about and where it is coming out. Do share it with me once its done.

      Thanks for reading and commenting.

      Bhavesh

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  8. Thank you so much.... May our dear uncle's soul rest in peace.
    You are an extremely lucky person to have met him. He will always live in our hearts <3

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    1. Thanks Almas. Yes, when I heard of the news today in the morning, I felt quite empty. I have grown up admiring him and his works. I really was extremely lucky to have interviewed him. God was kind. Hope his soul rests in peace. And like you said, he will always be in our hearts.

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  9. This brought tears to my eyes. Thank you so much.

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    1. Thank you for reading SharD. Yes, even when I read this now, I feel emotional. Pranji gave us the best gift of our childhood which we will always cherish.

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